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>> schieffer: i'm bob schieffer today on "face the nation." isis strikes again. late yesterday isis released another execution video, this time the available victim was 44-year-old british aide worker david haines latest from london where david cameron says -- >> we'll hunt down those responsible and bring them to justice no matter how long it takes bob we'll talk to white house chief of staff, denis mcdonough, secretary of state. john kerry and head of homeland security mike mccaul. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand will be along to talk about her new book "off the sidelines" and she has lot to say about the crisis in the nfl. finally ken burns and his team will be here to preview the new
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pbs series "the roosevelts" an intimate history. 60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs captioning sponsored by cbs good morning again this news from overnight is causing repulsion around the world as you might expect. we want to go first to cbs news correspondent charlie d'agata at the british parliament. >> good morning, bob, this morning british prime minister called emergency meeting to discuss the crisis, afterward he praised aid worker david haines calling him a british hero said that the british government would not back down in its fight against isis. >> we are a peaceful people. we do not seek out confrontation. but we need to understand we cannot ignore this threat to our security and that of our allies. there is no option of keeping our heads down that would make us safe. the problem would merely get worse as it has done over recent months not just for us but for
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europe and for the world. we cannot just walk on by if we are to keep this country safe. we have to confront this men as. step by step we must drive back, dismantle and ultimately destroy isil and what it stands for. we will do so in a calm, deliberate way but with an eye on determination. >> the crisis isn't over yet, the second british aide worker that was shown at the end of that isis video was threat that he, too, would meet the same fate unless the british government would stop the support of the u.s. military in the region. >> thank you very much. joining us now here in washington, white house chief of staff denis d.n.a. donna, thank you soap much for finding time to talk us to. >> i'm happy to be here. >> schieffer: does this change anything? >> you know, we were obviously painfully aware of their
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barbarity and their nefariousness even before this video but this obviously underscores it yet again. a development worker, aide worker after two journal cyst, all people who had only the search for truth. this is what isil has done. really showed their true colors. >> schieffer: what was the president's reaction? >> you saw what the president said last night which he obviously condemned this in the strongesss also underscored oure to stand firm shoulder to shoulder with the united kingdom but also with this coalition to include muslim country from the region to take this fight to isil to degrade and ultimately destroy them. >> schieffer: can we expect a strong reaction soon? >> you can expect a continued, strong, steady reaction against this threat so that w degrade it and ultimately destroy it.
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but you can also expect strong international coalition to include our muslim friends from the region and obviously we have a very important vote coming this week in congress. on the title 10 program that will allow us to train and quip syrian opposition that is on the ground today fighting isil that is exactly what we want to do so that we can put syrian boots on the ground to take this fight to isil have not to rely on ours or nobody else's. ultimately the president made denixon that we're going to provide our unique capability in airstrikes in intelligence and training and be up to the syrians on that side of the border to finish the job. >> schieffer: henry kissinger was on this broadcast last week he said that had he been there, he would have recommended a very strong reaction for 72 hours and then step back and say, what is our long term strategy. do you feel that we have gotten these people's attention here? >> there's no question we have their attention.
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let me remind you why president chose the path he chose. the reason iraqi security forces melted away in the face of the isil threats in places like mosul is because long time erosion of politics in that country where prime minister focused on his ethnicity and his sect rather than the whole country. we thought it was very important toe get him out of that job, get new prime minister and multi-ethnic government shaped and ready to go. that's step one in process that will degrade and ultimately destroy isil. >> seeing this video yesterday leads me to believe that if we ever had any doubt about these people posing a threat to the united states, these videos would remove that. are they a threat to our national security? >> there's no question that they are a threat to our national security. what we have said is that we are not aware of any credible threats to the homeland right
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now. but we are concerned about two things -- three things in particular. fact that they now control territory. and that gives them place to plot and plan. now getting not only new fighters but increased money and followers and adherence. third perhaps most importantly we're worried about the number of foreign fighters that are going in to syria to fight. some of them may then become even more extreme and want to return to their home country, be that in europe or even in the united states, god forbid, to carry out their terrible acts. we'll make sure that does not happen. by sharing information with our partners, keeping the pressure on our partners to not allow people in and out of syria and to make sure that as president will do later this month up in the united nations that we have the tools to stop that kind of travel. >> schieffer: mr. mcdonough, thank you, we'll let you get back to work. >> i appreciate the opportunity. >> schieffer: we spoke with
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secretary of state john kerry yesterday in cairo before this latest news broke, here is part of what he said. mr. secretary, thank you so much, can i clear up one thing first. this week you went to some lengths to say you wouldn't call this a war it been yet at the pentagon and at the state department even they were saying we are at war with isis. are we at war? >> well, bob, i think frankly kind of tortured debate going on about terminology. what i'm focused on obviously is getting done what we need to get done to isil. but if people need find the place to land in terms of what we did in iraq, originally this is not a war, this is not combat troops on the ground. it's not hundreds of thousands of people, it's not that kind of mobilization. but in terms of al qaeda, which we have used the word war with, yeah. war with al qaeda and same
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context if you want to use it, yes. we're at war with isil in that sense. but i think it's a waste of time to focus on that frankly let's consider what we have to do to degrade and defeat isil that's what i'm frankly much more focused on. >> schieffer: mr. secretary, let me ask you about your trip. the foreign minister is being quoted here saying that syria has no problems with american airstrikes going after isis targets in syria. as long as they are coordinated. he said he was ready toe talk. will we be coordinating this campaign with syria? >> no, we're not going to coordinate with it syria. we will certainly want to deconflict make certain that they're not about to do something that they might regret even more seriously. but we're not going to coordinate, it's not a cooperative effort. we are going to do what they haven't done, what they had
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plenty of opportunity to do which to take on isil to degrade it and eliminate as a threat. and we will do that with respect to this trip, i've been extremely encouraged to hear from all of the people that hive been meeting with about their readiness and willingness to participate. i can tell you right here and now that we have countries in this region, countries outside of this region. in addition to the united states all of whom are prepared to engage in military assistance, in actual strikes that that is what it requires. we also have a growing number of people who are prepared to do all the other things. people should not think about this, this effort just in terms of strikes. in fact as some pointed out, that alone is not going to resolve this challenge. >> well, mr. secretary, you've
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gotten any specific commitments for military help? for example, have you found anybody that is willing to put troops on the ground in to this fight? >> we're not looking to put troops on the ground. there are some who have offered to do so. but we are not looking for that at this moment anyway. the answer is, yes, there are some that have said that. there are some that are clearly prepared to take action in the area alongside the united states. and to do airstrikes if that's what they're called on to do. what we're doing right now, bobs putting together the whole package. and it's not appropriate to start announcing, will this country do this, do that. >> schieffer: let me ask you this, going back to what you said, you said you're not looking for troops on the ground, do you really think you can destroy isil without -- without troops on the ground? how does that work? >> bob, there are troops on the
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ground that don't belong to us they're called syrian. the syrian opposition is on the ground. one of the regrettable things is, it has been fighting isil by itself over the course of the last couple of years. and it's one of the reasons that they have had difficult battle. now with the air support and other effort from other countries, they will be augmented in their capacity. one of the things the president put in plan is the effort to increase the training, increase the equipping, advising to the syrian opposition and i can't tell you whether some of the country and neighborhood will or won't decide to put some people in there. we know the united states is not going to do that. but as i say, this is a strategy coming together as the coalition comes together and countries declare what they're prepared to do. but i want it to be absolutely clear out of this discussion
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we're having, that every single aspect of the president's strategy and what is needed to be done in order to accomplish our goal has been offered by one country or multiple countries and all bases are covered. >> schieffer: mr. secretary. we thank you soap much for finding time to talk with us this morning. >> delighted to be with you. thank you very much, bob. >> schieffer: joining us now is the chairman of the house homeland security committee texas congressman michael mccaul. the secretary of state says we're not looking for ground troops. what does that mean? >> i think that's unwise. i do agree with the strategy that we want the sunni moderates, the arabs to feet the sunni extremists, i don'ti thik we want to put our conventional combat troops. we will need advisors to guide airstrikes. having said that just two days ago said he is ready today to
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built his troops in to syria to fight isis. i don't know why we wouldn't consider that option of all the arab nations. met with egypt they have very strong military that we can try to advance to put them in that area. >> schieffer: there are people traveling with the secretary this morning saying that we also have commitments from some arab countries to furnish aircraft to join in the airstrikes. do you know anything about that? >> i do. i know uae and other countries have stepped up to the plate. i think that is a positive sign. i think fact general allen is leading this international coalition who is the commander, he is the expert to do this. i think it is positive. again we want sunni moderates to fight the sunni extremists here. i think that is key. after the beheadings once again reminder how brutal and barbarian they are and with all the mixed messages coming out of
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the white house about we don't have strategy, we're managing this conflict, finally saying they're going to destroy them it's important clear signal, but also to our allies in the region that we will destroy and defeat the isis wherever they exist, wherever they exist that is very important by any means necessar >> schieffer: you know, your colleague, republican senator lindsey graham showed extreme frustration this morning, here is just a bit of what he said. >> there's no way in hell you can form an army on the ground to go in to syria to destroy isil without a substantial american component. this president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. >> schieffer: should there be more of sense of urgency about meeting this threat? we haven't had any airstrikes seems like a week. >> there's been no -- this threat has been out there for
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over a year. finally the white house started to pay attention to it after the beheading, after the american people started to rally behind this. finally comes out with an address to the nation. but now it's catch up time trying to get a coalition together. getting a strategy together. the bottom line is isis does not fit in this president's narrative. his narrative i am the president to end these wars. now looks at his legacy he can't get his head wrapped around the idea of what isis is and how to defeat it and what i am meant urge and threat that it is. now american people are resolved to say on isis immediately and urgently. >> schieffer: would you like to see congress vote to authorize these airstrikes, to go to the world as say, we're united about this. >> i think it is important and president has said he's coming to congress for support. the american people need to weigh in with their short. i do think we're going to vet on
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limited authorization with respect to training and vetting of these moderate syrian forces, it's important for congress to authorize these airstrikes particularly in the syria. general came out said you can't win this unless you go in to syria. he was reined in quickly. he was right. we can't cut the head of the snake off unless we to go where it is. the head of the snake is in syria. >> schieffer: congressman, thank you so much for joining us. we'll be back with new york senator kirsten gillibrand. when change is in the air you see things in a whole new way. it's in this spirit that ing u.s. is becoming a new kind of company. one that helps you think differently about what's ahead, and what's possible when you get things organized.
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syria. >> it is appropriate to ask for congress' approval for certain military actions, he's going to do that. certain strategies i don't support, i don't think arming the rebels in this instance is necessarily going to be productive. we spent years trading iraqi forces, police forces, iraqi military forces and isil was able to cut through that like butter. there are things that he is asking our support for that i do support. i do think multi-lateral engage system wise. it has to be participation by sunnis, muslims, arab all across middle east. if you continues form coalition to deal with this serious terrorist threat that is the right approach. >> schieffer: let me talk on something else. you were one of 16 senators who have called on roger goodell to adopt a zero tolerance policy on domestic violence in the national football league. >> i think the way the nfl handled this was awful. it was outrageous. they had all the facts they
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needed. they had a player who admitted to beating his wife, had video of him dragging her out of an elevator, something left to determine. that player should have been fired immediately. we are now looking to enforce a zero tolerance policy. the broader issue, bobs this institutional support. this chronic institutional support whether it's nfl, whether it's the u.s. military, whether it's college campus, institution gathers and surrounds their star players, their golden boy, whomever it may be without any for the victim and survivors. without any regard for women. as i talk about in my book this larger issue, are women being valued by institutions and are they being listened to. >> schieffer: do you think, have you come to conclusion yet about whether you think roger goodell ought to just step down? >> well, initially i want him to leave to create and enforce zero tolerance policy but given recent debatef he lied to the
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american people then he has to step down. because he won't have the force of authority to change how they address these issues. >> schieffer: let's talk about this in a broader sense because this is what you talk about in your book. what's the problem here? >> well, the reason why i wrote this book is because i am creating a call to action, to be heard on issues that they find important. the things they deeply compare about. and i purposely include lots of details about my life, about my mentors, my mother being one of the three women in law school class, my grandma who got whole generation of women to care about politics. i cite those examples i want to use them as way to bring in readers to understand that their voices matter. the way they see the world may be different if they're not being heard whether it's halls of congress or pta meeting outcomes won't be as strong. if they do speak up and are
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heard they can make things better. >> schieffer: the problems at the nfl is having, we also know there are these kinds of things going on in some of the other leaguess it time for congress to take some action, look in to any of this? >> well, if the nfl doesn't police themselves then we will be looking more in to it. i wouldn't be surprised if we are hearing, for regular women, women watching your show, we should be heard on these issues that's the point of my book. >> schieffer: i was stunned as some of the revelations in your book because i've been covering washington and congress and senate for a long, long time. in this chapter about your struggle with your weight and some of the comments from some of your male colleagues about your weight. >> it's incredible. >> schieffer: i was stunned. >> i have to say for woman reading the book, not only going to see herself in these stories but it tells her that she's not alone. i added the story when i was a young lawyer where i worked hard
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on case on day we're celebrating years and months of hard work my boss talks more about migrate new hair cut how i look than all i -- that was devastating. i felt so unappreciated and i felt valueless. i want that young reader to say, that happened to me. i want to say, you kno what, i'm going to push on not only am i going to make partner but change how the company does business. i want women to feel empowered to have that sense that they're not alone. >> schieffer: senator gillibrand always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> schieffer: we'll be back in one minute. blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® is now available in flextouch® - the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration.
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executed was not a combatant. he was an aide worker who went to syria to help war victims. what kind of people kill the innocent in the hope of impressing their men enemies. these kind of people. barbarians, psychopaths and who are they trying to impress? the videos title leaves no doubt it says, a message to the allies of america. narrator says british eighth worker is being executed not for anything he did but because british prime ministers can't find the courage to say no to the americans. there are still those who say all this has nothing to do with america, that isis does not really pose a threat to us. sadly isis does not seem to see it tha way and these videos make it clear. yes, america is of war but when fires break out we fight them before they spread. not when it is convenient.
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we have no choice now. whatever it takes and as the president said, however long it takes. this evil must be eradicated, these forces must be destroyed. back in a minute.
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>> schieffer: welcome back now to "face the nation." we are very excited today to welcome film and dock you men terry film maker ken burns to "face the nation." his new series is "the roosevelts: an intimate history." it airs tonight and every night this week on pbs starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern. also joining us this morning geoff ward who wrote "the roosevelts" and doris kearns goodwin. you'll hear her many times throughout this series. ken, i'm going to start out by just making a flat statement. this is your best work yet. >> i'm also told that you are in some way related to the roosevelts, does that have anything to do with you -- >> no, we've been talking about
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doing the roosevelts for as long as i've known geof or franklin or we decided to put them all three together which had never been done before. in the midst half way through new england historic genealogical society gave me an award present me with this book told me that, franklin and theodore and eleanor they are fifth cousins. i am 7th cuss towns theodore and eleanor once removed and eighth cousin once removed to franklin. i may than is the point which we do full disclosure. >> what is also true i got that same award, i thought of myself as irish catholic i'm related to sarah roosevelt. >> we were working on film on vietnam i ex him to be related to ho i didn't hi min. >> schieffer: this is story about three unique people in
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every sense of the word. this is not just about teddy roosevelt and franklin d. roosevelt but also about eleanor roosevelt. who is a figure as remarkable in history as perhaps her husband. let's just talk about the similarities between teddy and franklin and connection there. let's just run this clip. >> they belonged to different parties. they over came different obstacles. they had different temperments and styles of leadership. but it was the similarities and not the differences between the two that meant the most to history. both were children of privilege who came to see themselves as champions of the working man. and earned the undying emnity of many of those who had grown to manhood they shared a sense of stewardship of the american land.
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and unfamed love for people and politics. and firm belief that the united states had an important role to play in the wider world. >> schieffer: doris, the thing that struck me over and over again, we find the same thing with eleanor roosevelt. these were rich people. these were rich boys and she, of course, she was came from family of means. but what was it that caused these three people to be able to become the leaders that they were? >> you know, some times i think it's inside a person that there are certain instinct for liking people and caring about people, maybe innate empathy but all three were tested by adversity having been children of privilege put them in a different path. teddy roosevelt had terrible asthma as a child he had to work himself up to that many man. hard work that connected him to other people for whom hard work was daily work.
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when his wife and daughter died on the same day in the same house,e and mother rather, he went to the bad lands in depression, wes cowboys, lot of other people that are rich person normally wouldn't. with fdr after polio transformed him, made him clearly more related to other people for whom fate an unkind hand. where with a whole bunch of other people, also in the state senate there were irish guys, first they looked down on them, i have to get along with them. eleanor, do, adversity. of having that mother who called her granny and father who was alcoholic. yet she finds herself in madam sylvester's home and boarding house wants to couple back serve other people. they got their sense of full i willment it was way removed from just elite world. >> let's just play this clip here about eleanor. >> the living link between them was theodore roosevelt's best
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loved muse and franklin's wife, eleanor. she had learned to face fear and master it long before her husband declared that the only thing americans had to fear was fear itself. her own character and energy and devotion to principles would make her the most consequential first lady and one of the most consequential women in american history. >> schieffer: one of the most consequential women in american history, you convinced me as i watched this documentary. i had not really appreciated what a unique person she was and contribution that she made. >> she's an absolutely astonishing person. i really think i say in the film, i still say, she is miracle of the human spirit. given the parched emotional desert of her childhood to come out of that and difficulties with her husband and all the other things she dealt with, she
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became this extraordinary figure who took on every cause imaginable and never stopped. she just absolutely relentless, just the way her uncle theodore was. >> schieffer: not onl take on these causes she was effective in causing change. >> that's exactly right. we did a film on national parks, stuart uudall said theodore roosevelt had distance in their eyes, i think all three did, i could understood what the coming issues are you think about eleanor roosevelt she's right on all of these things. about race, about poverty, women, about children. about labor, about immigration, health, all of these things that are going to be the agenda of today she is already actively engaged in this not in some sort of phony political make an appearance, but going down in to the mines then come back telling her husband what he needs to do. it's really a remarkable
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achievement. >> schieffer: while she was writing five or six newspaper columns a week. >> unbelievable. holding press conferencesw evy week, only women reporters would come to her press conferences, suddenly entire generation of fee nail journalists get their start because of eleanor, writing autobiography, sending memos to franklin that he has to say, only three memos a night, i can only read -- talking to general marshal about discrimination in the armed forces he has to assign separate general to deal with eleanor. she was thage take for, the she had him pragmatic political figure that's why they work so together as team. >> schieffer: we talked about adversity that was overcome by both teddy and franklin. she was betrayed by her husband and she had to live through that. >> not only did she live through it she came out more resilient than ever before. she found that she could go outside the home to find her sense of fulfillment. an independent path she had role
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range of talents for organizing, for speaking, articulating her cause. in some ways if that hadn't happened she stayed within family circle maybe she couldn't have, maybe that vibrancy was in her. i hope she would have broken through. thank god for country and for franklin, too. it made her the partner that without her he would never have been the president he was. >> all of these bad things that happened, these crucibles of adversity that doris listed all become the agencies of their transformation they are able to escape the specific gravity of these tragedies whether it's asthma and the death and suffering of theodore roosevelt ip his early life or herbie trail by franklin and her early life with franklin's oleo they transform this in to something that serves their careers much better and themselves but also more importantly the rest of us. we all do well when we all do well. which is the very simple distilled philosophy of all three of these people.
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that is the great legacy. we struggle to define leadership today as we figure out what is the working formula, what they had was just that thing. it wasn't addition of their money, it was the addition of their times and their lives and their sacred honor to this process. that's we are the beneficiaries. >> schieffer: you yourself were a victim of polio you had polio when you were nine years old. could franklin roosevelt have been the leader he was had he not had polio? >> it's a great question. i don't think we have been that leader. i think it taught him a kind of of -- increased his empathy. i think it also taught him patience. if you can't walk you need -- you have to wait for things. he learned that. >> schieffer: he never gave up. one of the things that i learned in this, he had polio, there was no cure, he was going to be crippled for want of a better
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word. and yet you came away feeling that he thought that one of these days if i just keep at it i'll find a way to walk again. >> yes, he did. one of the things i'm proudest of in this show and i thank ken, because nobody's ever been able to give the whole story of that time. you see in this show how he was crippled and the various ways he tried to deal with it and how it affected the rest of his life. and that is usually skimmed over in film. >> schieffer: let's look at this next clip here. >> it produces terror, unreasoning terror, you just can't believe that the legs that you depended on simply don't work. and i don't know how to convey to people that suddenly key not
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go to the bathroom. he couldn't go for the telephone. he couldn't do anything on his own and the limbs that -- he was a great dancer. he was a great golfer. he loved to run. none of that would ever happen again. he dreamed about it all his life but he never could do it. >> schieffer: many people did not understand that he really couldn't walk. he had developed this way to throw his body with his braces locked in to place but had to have someone on either side of him. could he have kept that from the public today, doris, obviously not. >> probably not. hopefully the public today would be much more understanding and glad to have somebody who had overcome this kind of problem and become so strong. but he made decision at that time that the country probably wouldn't feel comfortable with a man who couldn't walk. but he dreamed about it all the time. he had this way of going to
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sleep at night where he would imagine himself a young boy once more on the hills at hyde park taking his thread down the hill. when he got to the bottom bringing it up again like somebody counts sheep. in that dream he's running, he's walking, he's sliding, then he can finally to go sleep because he dreams it. i think once you decide that you're going to use your talents in a different way, that he became the most active wheelchair man could you possibly imagine. every other part of his body is so vitally alive. >> schieffer: here we have one clip here that just what we're talking about here, let's take a look at this. >> he labored at mastering what his physiotherapists called, a two-point walk. the slow rocking gait we em ploy in public for the rest of his life. >> he really wasn't walking, jeff. he was just -- back and for. >> that's right. i guess i differ with doris a little.
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i think if he were running now, sadly, i think tv crew works would compete to see who could get the footage that showed him at his most helpless. he had to be carried in and out of buildings. had to be helped to move his braces so on. and i think fox news would have loved that. >> you know to illustrate your point, sadly, in 1936 when he was coming down the aisle to give acceptance speech he went over to shake somebody's hand he did fall. and his braces unlocked his speech fell around him. there was honor code of the press not to show him that way. he goes up gives the speech, that's all you hear. today you are probably right. yeah, look what we have. >> schieffer: we think because -- we to know more but we learned less this is man who had 998 press conferences, those reporters and people around him saw this stuff, saw the huge effort but also had intimate access to him as the chief executive. so i think we still think that
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really good that we know everything. it may not be really good that we know everything and because we know everything there is now a moat around the presidency and our great leaders that then removes us from the possibility of truly knowing him. he had hack says, he fancied himself a newspaper man and knew them by name. and i think they not only saw the arduousness and sacrifice didn't write about it but had much clearer idea of all the other things that were going on. in a way that we don't now. we are still talking about the bubble, how much the person gets isolated in the bubble and that we are unaware of what is really going on inside these complicated interiors that we call our leaders. >> indeed both theodore and franklin had such close relationships to the press than anyone could do receive of today. theodore roosevelt doing the barber, the shave, lunch, fdr had two press conferences a week, that's what kept them in close contact with sentiment of
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the people which is so critical in democracy which i feel our presidents are not today. >> schieffer: also, this is where they were -- as you say this is where they were getting their information. both teddy roosevelt and franklin had this innate ability to know where the country was. how much it could take. how much it could swallow. >> how fast it could move. >> when he said about empathy that franklin was able to assume with the polio, i think all of them had a version of empathy. whatever happened theodore's father's troublesome conscience, inherits an empathy for other people the suffering and sacrifice, the need on part of theodore and eleanor to spend their lives in perpetual motion, out running the demons they think might over take them also places them in to the light among the irish halls of albany. in the west, with the cowboys.
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that empathy is the essential missing ingredient or secret sauce of leadership. it's not just remove and idealism from the hill, but really down with the people. and these are all people speaking with accents. not people putting on the phony airs where they adopt the southern accent of the crowd that they're in. these are people who are resolutely themselves and they ought to be commended for remaining resolutely --' >> schieffer: people know when -- >> people know when i use local saying it always comes out right. we'll take a break here. we'll come back need to talk more about teddy roosevelt. in the world, entes are the largest targets in the world, for every hacker, crook and nuisance in the world. but systems policed by hp's cyber security team are constantly monitored for threats.
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character he was. he was almost in a funny kind of way like john mccain when he was on that bus he never stopped talking and eating all those sugar dnking all that coffee. there were a lot of those same attributes in teddy roosevelt. >> newleywed by cup after cup of coffee served to him in the special mug that his elder son said was bigger than a bathtub. theodore roosevelt raced through his day. letters were answered upon receipt. lifetime total of 150,000, dictated to shifts of weary stenographers. we not stop talking. he was a one-man gas bag. but it was so interesting that most people didn't mind. >> we love him because of the energy. his laugh was infectious. his son ted said my father had dozen eggs for breakfast every morning so he's large man, he's
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larger than life. >> schieffer: well he certainly was that. >> i loved every minute of living with him these last seven years, the vitality, i'd wake up in the morning, i got to get going because teddy roosevelt is going. everything he did, getting on the trains, on the whistle-stop trains going around the country, waving to everybody. stopping at ever station, getting gifts in from the people, lizards, snakes, horned toads, one time there was group that didn't wave back he was so disappointed because he was used to that, it was a herd of cows, as nearsighted as he was. he never stopped. once said he was extraordinary man, with ordinary perseverance. with a gift for leadership. he's one of the most interesting, colorful characters i've ever -- i'm not sure i want to be married with him. >> you want to go out to the bar have a drink with him. travel across the country with him. all of this has to be understood with a little bit of clear eyes
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that it comes from essential instability of character. he is a depressive. he's subject to those kind of compressions he felt as he said, can rarely sit behind a rider whose pace is fast enough that means 21st century parlance out run your demons he's spending all of his time, all of his life at high speed. if you think about oldest picture you can imagine of theodore roosevelt he looks 85. he died at age 60. i'm 61. you realize what was spent in the course of this and sort of belligerent love, the idea that war is sort of a good thing and it helps to clean the soul of a country. after george wilson says in the film after 20th century became what it became you have to look at him with clear eyes. >> schieffer: what are the lessons that today's leaders in the congress, in the white
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house, in america, what are the lessons that they can draw from this, geoff? >> i just think they should look at people who are real leaders of all three of them are the real authentic thing. they had an idea, they were going to go there they were perfectly willing to engage in serious politics with people who didn't necessarily agree with them. and get there. >> schieffer: henry kissinger was on this broadcast last sunday, in his new book he says, leaders must be willing to go places not certain that they're going to succeed. if they think their cause is right. certainly these three people. >> i think looking ahead at the presidential election coming up in some years, that's what we should be looking to for ip our leaders what kind of attributes do they have. what kind of strengths. do they sour round themselves with people who can question
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them how have they gotten through adversity. do have certain kind of emotional intelligence that distance. this is what we should be looking for instead who have does well in debate, who zings somebody in an ad. our whole presidential system by looking at these people, they were leaders. if we could find some of these qualities in the characters that are going to put before us in these next years would be far better off investigating them that way than the way we do. >> i agree. infantile fantasy of film makers to think that film might do something. as you look at the example of these three extraordinary leaders, who had great adversity in their time, willingness to compromise, willingness to work and roll up their sleeves this is what is not happening now. sort of self fulfilling right now. i think these people might be inspiration of how you can get it done because we're not getting anything done. you have to get things done, that's the stuff of democracy. nobody is going to get the whole
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loaf it's the half loaf. all of these people understood in their guts was realizing, franklin roosevelt wasn't going to get everybody he wanted on social security. neither theodore or franklin roosevelt got health care that they wanted. it took -- took century to get health care. >> schieffer: what strikes me as i sit here listening to you talking about this, what is not in this 14 hours. i don't recall that you had anything about any of these people and their ability to raise money. which seems to be all this our politicians -- >> these are rich people yet you do not see the application of that wealth in the political process. it permits them time and luxury to pursue it but you're absolutely correct, bob there. is not a whiff of money here in terms of what are the ingredients of leadership.
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i think that if we had the opportunity just to remove the money question, the thumb on this scale, we would be in so much better shape and we'd probably get a lot more done. >> schieffer: thank you all so much. we'll be right back. at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies, to move, to keep warm, to make clay piggies. that's why we are supplying natural gas, to generate cleaner electricity, that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. let's broaden the world's energy mix, let's go.
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